FMH LIVE: Air Intake Review

Hey guys, welcome to this month's Fix My Hog live event. As many of you may know, I'm Tommy Creel. I'm the contributing editor, a contributing editor with Fix My Hog. And this month, we're going to be going through intakes and just touching a little bit on carburetors and also your EFI systems that you may have in your twin cam. So we're going to have plenty of time for questions. I see Ed, you're already kind of coming in on a few questions here, but feel free throughout this entire live event to drop a quick note in that chat box right there, we'll do our best, I'll do my best to get to those questions. Also, if you have any that you want to submit online as well you can go to fixmyhog.com and do that too. But, before we kind of jump into stuff, laying the groundwork for today, we're going to be going in depth on some of the parts that with our carborated systems, also, with the intakes and assembling those. I've got an Evo sitting up on the lift here that we're going to run through. This is kind of the nuts and bolts of anything so it doesn't get much more basic than this here. So, and also right below that chat box you see that word, "free" troubleshoot with Harley air codes. This is new, make sure you download it, Take a look at it, good stuff and also kinda browse around for some other stuff that you may be interested in tooling around with. Alright, as you may know, we're based out of Chicago here. So we're dealing with, what is it, zero degrees? Negative, negative ten, whatever it is. So, bear with me throughout this. We're trying to still get our brains, cranked up and warmed up here. So thanks for joining us! And we're going to jump in right now to intakes and why you may be changing those and how to change those and all that fun stuff. So we've got two different styles of intakes, one for twin cams, one for Evo style bikes. And obviously you can go on and on, on different models but those are the two major areas that we have, two major motors that we have. Right here, I've got a carborated, carburetor, and then also on this side, I've got a, can you see this one on the camera? The Kuryakyn intake. You can see that one? Okay. And we're going to be going through those but the two different styles, we're going to match them up and I'll explain all that fun stuff. Additionally, why you may be doing this. We've had people in the past and I've had people in the shop asking, you know, "Why would I do this other than cosmetics?" If you're doing quote-unquote, "a stage one," you're going to be removing your pipes and putting a new set on, and then your carb-, your air filter would be the second one and then a tuner on that as well. So that's a stage one, but if you're upgrading your motor as well and getting that more powerful, you're going to need to draw in more air and make sure you're supplying your motor with enough air flow. So that would be another reason you kind of jump into it. And obviously there's the big one of cosmetics. So if you're going after, nowadays on our twin cams and dressers that we have out there, we black them out, chrome them out, and we want to make it look as good to the eye as possible. So cosmetic is always a big one. All right, I'm going to get up here and get moving a little bit. So, types of intakes, and I'm going to start with the Evo side over here, what we have. So this is just a, I know a lot of people may see these out there still. I know Jesse James with West Coast Jabbers do these a lot. These are our open air cleaners right here. The only downside to using these is that it's open to all elements on the road. So if you're getting debris, if you're going through rain or even if you're riding through the desert you're going to get that continuous cause to potentially block that airway up. So these are, you know, the downside to this one is that they just have, they're more open. We have our closed one as well, I say closed, because it's secure. Obviously there's still air going through our air filter right here into our carburetor. And those are major, those are typically just the two basic kinds of this, set up right here. I'll grab- It's already getting cold in here. With our Evo setup, this is an SNS Shorty Carburetor and these are super simple to put together. I know people tend to not want to dive into these because of the err of caution or doing something wrong. It's extremely simple and nowadays with buying your intake or air cleaner you're going to have the manufacturer's guide to walk you through the entire step, the installation process. And also you've got all our videos that you can go through as well. So, don't be scared or deterred from trying this on your own because like I said, it's stupid simple. So our carburetor, we're actually gonna be installing on the bike after I run through the next one. But, our carburetor goes on right here. We have our backing plate, which will have a gasket right back here. And that's just going to be three, bolts securing that right to our carburetor with the gasket. We're also going to have our breathers. These are the slots for our breathers going directly out of our heads of the engine. So we're gonna secure these down, air filter goes directly over the outside of this, and then our cover. That's how easy it is. Now, if you have a different setup, where we're using an open intake, what you see right here are these, are the breathers for it because nine times out of ten, what you're going to have in the back here, but this setup, and this one does have it, you're going to have two hoses that run into your carburetor to each of your breathers. So that's what to, that's the only difference between having some external ones, and then also having the hoses. With this one we have our backing plate, and then our breathers right over. And then with the gasket on either side of this making sure that there's no additional air being drawn into the carburetor, we're just going to install the air intake on the outside of that. And that's like I said, cosmetics, take a run at that. That's, I like that one. Sorry guys, I'm trying to refresh this chat box for you guys too. So with an Evo setup, that is just the biggest, those are the two different types; you have the open and you have the closed, with that. And apparently my computer doesn't want to work right now today, either, with how cold it is. All right, I think I got it now. So, for our carborated system, that's the major nuts and bolts of it all. Like I said, we'll try and get some time to get it up on that bike for you. Now with a twin cam set up and a EFI, we have our backing plate. This is actually a Kuryakyn Hyper Charger. We did install this on an M8 recently. So make sure you check out that video, but this is the backing plate. This is actually electronic-controlled with the module right here. What you see a lot of nowadays, you're gonna see these crazy wires that come in, in the box as well. Don't be intimidated by these, it's plug and play. My recommendation on installing these, you always want to pull the fuse or disconnect the battery from anything, that way you're not doing any disruption to the electrical system while you're installing this. But it's as easy as this, you're going to mount this module in one of your side, troves. This is your fuse that's internally built in. You're going to have a ground wire, You're going to have your ignition coil wires, and then your wire that runs up to your intake. And it's that simple. You're going to plug and play with these, and you're good to go. The only area I would, or one of the areas, I should say, not the only one. One of the areas to take caution is when routing these wires from the back on, on one of your, one of your twin cams, make sure you're clearing anything that may be moving or pinch or bind these wires as well. So they give you enough wire here to get all the way around the heads and drop it right into that throttle body area with all the sensors. So, make sure you're taking a peek at that. And if you're having issues with your carburetor or sorry, your intake at any point, and you have electrical module hooked up to it like this hyper charger, make sure you take a peek at that fuse. Make sure you make sure that all the connections are securely put in. And then also that there's no binding or kinking in that. Cause a lot of times the wires will move if they're not securely put down. And that can be the root of all evil with your headache there. All right, so jumping on, backing plate, what we have right here and, after we install that, this is going to be different cause I don't have the bike on me. We're gonna have our backing plate right here, that's going to butt up to the throttle body. You can see on this, the style they have gaskets that are one-sided adhesive. This is going to butt up, right like that. And the instructions for this one were actually a headache, so sometimes they're not always right. Filter is going to go right directly over that. And then, our cover is going to slide right over as well. These are pretty cool, these are pretty slick because you get your flappers up here and you can hear that, that little motor going already. These adjust the amount of airflow needed on what we did, which was a stage one kit and allowing the computer to read and monitor that air pressure as well. So, this is a higher end one, but very clean, slick looking. And it was actually pretty discreet on the bike as well. So some of the hardware on this one, these are going to be our breather bolts. These are going to go directly into the heads of the engine. And then we have our hoses out that are going to go directly over that side, and plug into the back of our backing plate right here. So what you're going to see when you're done with it, it's gonna, plug and play like that. Cool? You got it. This is probably one of the more extensive sides of intakes that for installation that you'd go through. So it, you know, seeing that right there, I hope many of you wouldn't, move away from it, you know, try to install this on your own cause they're pretty simple. And here are the instructions, they give you a step-by-step, 24 steps apparently on this Kuryakyn to kind of walk you through it, so. That's like I said, high run and don't be intimidated by this, you'll be all right. So those are the two types. We've got quite a few questions coming in here. I'm going to get to these. Now I don't want to get too far into this, I know we only have 45 minutes here but I'm going to touch a little bit on the carburetors, internals, what they're doing, kind of problem shooting on that as well as throttle bodies and your manifolds and induction modules on your twin cam so, bear with me. We're gonna kind of go through this quickly and we're gonna, you can check out some of the other videos for more in-depth areas. However, on Evos like I said this is our SNS shorty carburetor. On this side, you can see all the gunk that's actually coming out of it. On this side, you'll see that we have our o-rings. A lot of times this will go unseen. So make sure you have all your seals put in there. This is our butterfly inside. We have our jet and our needle is down here in our float bowl. Now when, for some of the older bikes that may be out on the road for you guys tuning in right now and your bike is hopping or sputtering or not starting altogether, what you can look at inside your carburetor after obviously going through your air cleaner is making sure that you have proper fuel flow. And a lot of times what you're going to see is a gunked up float bowl. Down there, there's called the ting on the top of those, on your float bowl. Sometimes that will be stuck and not allow it to move up and down. So you're not getting any fuel through. Otherwise you're gonna have jammed up jets, make sure you're checking those, blow them out and get some pressure air through there. And, additionally on the back, these gaskets can kind of wear out eventually so once we get additional airflow moving in, sometimes the engine is not used to handling that and that will cause your bike to sputter or even die out down the road. Additionally, on here we've got our main idol right here, adjuster, this controls the air, inflow. We have our choke knob right here. And then this is for our idle and throttle lines right here. Now you can see, this one's going to this bike, this has a lot of cleaning up to do and get it looking a little bit nicer, but hopefully this makes your project at home look a little bit easier as well, seeing this bike and the chaos going on there. And then on the backing plate, this is our choke knob And making sure when you're installing this at this bolt, isn't too tight and also it has the range of motion that's needed. And then our gasket on the back, check that out, make sure that it's still in good condition. So carburetors, we can go a lot more in, but that's kind of the basics. Right through here is our accelerator pump as well. I did want to mention that. And there's a diaphragm down there that can be gunked up and clogged up as well. So that pushes things up and down right here. So check that out, if you're having issues with that, check that out. All right. And on EVOS, and with these SNS setups, a lot of times this is a very old fuel filter. This is a foam one. A lot of times you're gonna see that the canines now right out here, make sure you oil these up very slightly on the outside all the way through. Most of the time what we're going to see with improper air flow is that these are getting gunked up or build of debris. And additionally, the whole purpose of oil blow-by, I know there was a question about this, is that when your breather bolts are actually in your engine what the purpose of those are is to allow your engine to breathe. And just just out of you're, you're always going to have oil mixed in with your air. It's saturated just through your engine, so, when that does blow into your air filter, that overtime will build up and cause that air flow to be restricted. So keep in mind if you haven't changed your air filter in quite some time, take a peak at this thing first and right off the bat. And that'll be helpful. With these foam ones, I mean, these are very obsolete nowadays but what you do on this is you're just applying oil all the way through. It's like a dirt bike. And going all the way through here and cleaning that, so. to clean these, you're going to rinse these out and then do the same thing, apply the oil and get that in there. Get a close up on that one, cool. Right on. And, sorry guys, keep flying these questions through. So intakes, I want to make sure I'm getting everything down for you, intakes, carburetors, And we're going to go through just a slight bit of the induction modules for twin cams and the throttle bodies. Obviously, nowadays we have a lot of sensors, and, a lot of sensors and also injectors on our twin cams. And a lot of times now when we're doing stage one upgrades if you're just doing an intake upgrade, we have to account for that upgraded air flow coming in. So I'd make recommend making an adjustment to your tuner at that point, if we're upgrading one, but on the throttle bodies itself and the injectors and sensors, make sure they're clean and then you're properly installing those, and a lot of times it can be easy just to push it in and think it's clicked through. But nine times out of ten, if we're having issues with our bike and it's hopping or puttering and it's not, I guess, working to our standard, it's going to be that those electrical components, either the injectors are getting clogged up which you can simply pull out and rinse with gas, or it's one of the sensors not reading correctly. And by doing stage one upgrades and even with our intakes, we're upgrading the sensors on our exhaust pipes we're going and upgrading the air flow which we have to account for, and then typically the tuners as well, so, there's a lot of electrical pieces going on here and your bike needs to get that kind of fresh in its head and get you a new platform to work off of, so, make sure on those throttle bodies and induction modules that you're just making sure everything's clean and everything's properly seated as well. On your induction module, you still do have a gasket like this that goes through, this one's a cork, nowadays they're mostly rubber. But putting this in and making sure it's not cockeyed is key. This hole is a little bit larger and allows for that bolt to come through and have a little place, so, make sure you're just keeping an eye on installing those correctly if you do get that far into your project. So, I think I can go farther and farther into that but for the basics and the mechanics of it, just from the get go, check those sensors out and you should be pretty fine to go. I'm going to touch real quick on, since we're talking about on the, bikes bogging out, we had a question that came in and since we're right around, we'll go for it. So we had, "bike is hogging, out at around 60 miles per hour. I just put a new carb on." Doesn't say what kind of make or model you have but I'm going to go on both sides of the fence here. If you have an Evo or a carborated style like this Shorty, it could be fuel flow. You could have a lot of times fuel filters on there. You've got to replace those, look into your air cleaner making sure that that's clean. If you just put a brand new one on my guess would be if it's installed correctly, what you probably did is a gasket or you're getting additional like excess of air coming in because that will cause it to to bog down and die down at a higher speed. So check the accelerator pump as well. Now on a, if we're going after a twin cam model EFI unit, check the sensors. If you went through and changed something on the throttle body make sure everything's securely put in and that you've adjusted your tuner correctly as well, so, hopefully that's, that's helpful. And it's only getting colder in here, so give me a second. For everyone, not in the Chicago land area, be very very grateful right now. Everything's shutting down. All right. So carburetors, induction modules the whole kind of these air filters the external air internals those internals. It's super simple to put these together. And I think we got enough time where, before I start jumping into, some of the installation and tuning to put this one on, so, we're gonna take a stab at this one. All right, can you shoot that camera that way pal? If I'm shaking, it's cause it's cold. That's the only reason. All right, so installation on your Evo style. Obviously we have our manifold right here. We've checked to make sure everything was torqued down correctly to the heads. We've got our seals already put in, our o-rings in here. So double check and triple check that everything's to spec obviously refer to any kind of manual that you have for your bike on proper torque specs, for that. That could be another leading cause to, having issues with your bike is improper torquing. So from the back here, we've got our two, mounting bolts. I'm not going to be able to get my hand on that one. Keep in mind when you're working on these types of projects, it's nice to lay down some kind of safety material, rags in between here or even tape it up. A lot of times on fresh builds that we do. We will entirely mask out the entire bikes. And even when you're doing an upgrade, yours those little drops, if your tool drops, it can leave a big Mark, so. Yeah. All right, so now that we're through there, double check make sure we have that seal. Got that one. Man, let's get in and take care of his bike. Holy cow, it's brutal. And always, always start your hardware by hand. Never start those bolts with the tool, I'm only doing right here because you can't, you won't be able to tell if it's actually stripping or going in as it should, so, it's always best to start those out right away by your hand. Typically I'd be on the other side of the bike right now doing this but for your view, I'm trying to do it on this side. Line these holes right up. So for everyone out there riding right now, we're extremely jealous. All right, I'm going to start bottom one, which I have here. And then we're going to start at the top one as well. And many of you may know there's a ton of carburetors out there. There's Shorty G's, F's, the only difference in, well one of the differences I should say in those, are the actual internal parts of them so. Come on, buddy, not now. There we go. All right, now that we have those going, We're going to seal the top of that. Remember guys for anyone just logging in right now, check out that trouble shoot video with the Harley error codes. It should be right under the video right there, so, it's free, don't want anything, just check it out. All right, we're going to snug that one up, this side as well. And some of the key mistakes that you can make in this is like, I already mentioned the torquing but also, not align your bolts, with that Kuryakyn and setup surprisingly, it was, even with the instruction it had a, very confusing installation process. And sometimes if you don't feel something's working, like if a bolts going in and it feels too, that you have some resistance built-in and it's kind of sketchy, pull back out and make sure you're doing it right. We had to do that once or twice on that. Unfortunately we did because it turned out that we were right and the instructions weren't to the best spec. All right, so on the outside of this one as you can see here is our adjuster, here's our choke. Our breathers are already right in here. We have our throttle lines. This is going to be our fuel line and this is our overflow line. So right now, before we get anything else further on our intake, our carburetor, I'm going to route this one, right passed the tap up locks and right past the, oil pump down here and make life a little bit easier, sneak it away. As you can see, there's actually oil, coming out of there, which we don't want. All right, so we have our backing plate for this which, is going to be these three bolts we'll start with, make sure that choke now is ready to go. And the gasket, notice the gasket on this side, double check make sure that one's good. If you're redoing the same, pulling off to do something else on your bike and going through this area, make sure that, you're double-checking that gasket for wear and tear. And if there's a piece missing, make sure you change that because it'll cause chaos for ya. All right, now on this one, this one actually recesses around these breathers. And of course today we want to have a little issue, There we go. Yeah, Kuryakyn Hyper. We're just going to bring these all down snug. If you have more than three bolts, it's nice to go and kind of a crisscross fashion to make sure you're applying the same amount of pressure to each side and not to favor one side or the other. And then we go down, torque those to spec. At this point, even on our throttle bodies with our twin cams, it'd be nice to hook up your lines and double check anything that you may have up here, electrical wise, so, your injector you'd maybe want to reach into while the gas tank's off as well, clean them. It doesn't hurt to clean anything. So, and anything else that you may be doing in here just make sure you're taking care of it while you're going through it here. All right, we're going to secure this up. Start everything by hand. And we're just gonna bring these tight. Obviously these are going to be torqued to spec, for our purposes right now we're, not going to, so we can show you. And then for this one it actually didn't come in with hoses. But what we would be doing is taking a T hose which is one hose that breaks off into bottom feed, hook those up right here. And then back here coming out is our, breather portion of that, so, we would hook that up right now as well double check and check our choke. Everything else is looking good. Gasket seal there as well. And then we're going to take this one. Normally I'd have a rag down, any kind of chrome or ceramic. I wouldn't be putting that directly on metal. All Right. Those three bolts hold it on, air filter goes directly over these two. You see the little knob back here, sits in there. Man. There we go. And then, come on buddy It's a little cold. Oh well, Let me get the Phillips. And if it's not fitting in any of your guys' applications, don't force it. This one is just a very cheap, rigid metal in here, so, we'll be upgrading this one to a different filter anyways. I think the cold has taken part in this one. Make sure our bolts are clear, match this up. Sometimes you'll see actual little Loctite dabs that are dried up on these coming directly out of the package. You should use nothing more than a blue Loctite on here. Red is a little bit excessive, you don't need that. And that's just for obviously protection to make sure those bolts don't back out because we don't have any kind of, nylock in the back to hold those bolts in or a crush washer to put some tension against the head of that bolt. All right, man, this thing's oily. So snug one up here, snug this end up Go through and torque these down and then, clean this thing up real quick. clean this up, and double check to make sure everything's done so at this point, once you get it installed on your twin cam, once you get it all installed as well. go through and make sure everything's functional, everything's seated correctly. Gaskets are in place, double and triple check the torques on there. And from that point you should be good to go. Easy as that on the Evos. These are a lot easier. That's it on that one. All right, I'm going to shift over. Let's see if we got some questions in yet. All right, Ed has, Ed you've got two questions here, let's get to you. All right, Ed you've got an '05 Softtail, "How long should the choke be left on?" I guess that's all variant on how long it's been sitting, the temperature, there's a couple of variables with that but I would give it a few minutes to have the choke on, and then decrease the choke a little bit and then completely shut it off before riding it to make sure you're not, kind of tricking the motor to have more air. So if you're in a warmer temperature like San Diego and it's 70 degrees out there right now you can probably just blast it for a quick 45 seconds and then shut it down to a nice idle for that and then get it on it, grip it and rip it at that point. Gripping and ripping. You also have a 2015 Ultra Classic Low. Man, I want to be your friend, jeez. "First EFI bike, what should I look for?" I'll tell you the pros of having those, you're going to have a lot better performance and a lot a lot more options being able to tune it as well and more accurate I should say, rather than having a standard carborated unit. But I would, that's your first one, it's a fairly new bike as well with hopefully a little bit of low miles on there. Just make sure that you're continuing to, change the air filter if you have issues that come down the line of fuel problems or airflow problems, make sure you're going, number one, the air filter, then go to your sensors, look around for gaskets. that may be changed on the outside of that and that those injectors are clean, they do get gunked up. And definitely if you're in the Midwest or the East coast and you're in around winter time, and those aren't properly winterized you're going to have gunk buildup on that come springtime or summertime, so that's a big indicator, just pull those out, wash those down, clean them up and you'll be good to go, so, otherwise it'll be a lot of fun. I don't know if you've done upgrades to it yet or not but it's a pretty nice feature to have on your bikes. The maintenance is typically pretty low compared to these. And also you're going to have a clear head going down the road on those. But if you do do an upgrade and haven't yet and you do exhaust for se and then an intake, make sure you get your tuner intact and make sure that you're getting the proper amount of fuel and air at the same time. Like I mentioned earlier, you're going to have, a few more sensors on that, so, check that out. There was a question about it from Lindsay also. Well, let's see, was it on here? You have one posted. All right, let's see what you got. It's 69 degrees in Tucson. Funny, great. 69 degrees here in San Diego. You too Glad you guys are having fun with this. I'll be back for more. I'm not seeing Lindsay, saw Dennis if you can text that over, but oh from Lindsay, "2000 Streak Line getting ready to purchase a CFR exhaust to stock intake. What's a good air filter kit to go with? If you're just changing the air filter, alone, I would recommend a KNN filter, performance filter, something similar to this where you're going to have, it's just a better flow and you're less likely to get build-up, some of the cheaper models out there will go pretty quickly on you. And you'll start scratching your head on that one. So if you're just doing the air filter, I'd do that. If you're going with an entire intake, there's, I mean, it's endless with the options nowadays with all these manufacturers, Vance and Hines, Kuryakyn, those are the main two to go to for that. But if you're going for, with your exhaust to stock intake, I would recommend eventually actually just upgrading to an entire intake so I'm getting a whole new one there. Cold over there, buddy? Yeah, I just thought of something. Yeah, it's cold. I'm surprised you guys don't see my breath yet here. All right, so just kind of a rundown of typical issues with this, I know I'm kind of a little bit all over the place today with this stuff, but there's so much to the, the intakes and carburetors and EFI units that unfortunately we can't cover it all now. But some of the more common problems that we do see with the bikes performance wise in upgrades, we'll see excess oil. And like earlier I mentioned oil blow-by, which again is that, it's saturated air, going through your breathers and going through your air filter as well. Could we turn that on real quick? We could turn it on real quick? Get it like 69 degrees in Tuscon here. Hold on a minute, blast this thing, Just talk over it I'll talk over it. So hopefully you guys can hear this and I'll cover it again. Excess oil going through the air filter. This is like we mentioned with the breathers, it's going straight through our air filter. Make sure you've got to retreat back to the motor if that's the issue. I mean, you're getting too much out of there but expect a little bit to come through, that's normal. And, but a lot of times when we see overflow of it, we're going back to some kind of blow-by, within the combustion chamber, so. They can hear you. Yeah? All right. Limited air flow and restriction, so, I've had numerous customers in the past ask about the pros to obviously upgrading the, the air intake. And number one I would say is it's you're allowing, you're controlling more of the air flow going through. Whether it be a hyper charger like this, not so much on an external, but something like that as well, that we can, you know, adjust the air flow and definitely with our twin cams and tuners now, we can adjust that just right on our phones through an app, even. So when it's bogging out and you're getting too much gas and it's too heavy, a lot of times, a lot of times it's going to be, you're getting clogged up filters and air filter, as well. One minute, then it'll be warm in here. Just let me know when you want it off. Yeah, you can shut it off. Nice Dennis. All right, if you couldn't hear me over the heater there real quick, limited air flow and restriction obviously that'll cause huge issues, excess gas and you're not having the proper mixture so you're gonna foul out plugs and there's a whole laundry list of things that could happen. However, that's the importance of making sure when upgrading or even in your stock set up with your twin cam, that that air filter is, is, clean and it's allowing enough air, and so, bogging down sometimes is not just from a point of being lean, it can be too rich at times as well. And that will ultimately cause engine trouble and further past that, if you're getting too much and it's not the air filter itself, check for the gaskets make sure everything's still torqued down. Not most of the time, but some of the time you'll see that after installing your air cleaner or entire unit, bolts will have the tendency to back out. And I think we all know that. So double-check, and triple-check once you've put some miles on that bike, that everything is still secure and in place. I just recently had a issue with the exhaust of a bike and recommended to the guy that go through and double check the heat shields, make sure those are still on and some of the clamps were in place and the flanges were tightened. Sure enough, that was one of the causes to it. So make sure that you're not getting a, an additional source of air coming through either your, throttle body or carburetor other than just your air filter itself. Another root cause if you have miles on your bike and it's not obviously the air filter or any of those gaskets, and you're either, it's dying out it's not, you don't feel it's running as it used to. Double-check the sensors and, double check the sensors, sorry a couple of questions are coming through. Ed, you've got a lot of bikes. Double check the sensors, pull those out, clean them. Don't ever take a sensor and just crank on the air from a compressor and blow it straight down in there. Lightly take a rag, loose of typical shop rags and wipe it down and apply any kind of proper cleaning aid to that as well. But injectors, make sure those are all cleaned up and good to go as well. I'll get to your guys' questions here in, in a minute. No, Ed's having a ball here. If you're running into additional problems and you don't, obviously you're doing it in your garage and you want to make sure everything's in par. Do a fuel pressure test. In previous videos, I had fabricated gas tanks. Obviously you guys know, my backend is a lot of sheet metal. You want to make sure those, you have the right amount of pressure, otherwise you're not going to have the fuel flow that you need. And obviously getting inadequate amount of fuel to your motor is not what we want. We want to make sure you've got plenty of getting in there. So fuel pressure test is one. And then also an intake leak down, leak test is the other one that you can refer to, so, those issues bring you all the way back. Obviously simply change the filter, or the fuel filter as well. And that's nine times out of ten will be it, otherwise the fuel flow, so there's a ton of stuff with typical issues and problems that we have. And with installing these, if it's not going backwards into the installation, it can be some of those things I had just mentioned, so, before I get into tuning, Ed, oh. My '05 Softail backfires on deceleration if I gas it up. That's a timing issue. So I don't what kind you have in your bike, don't want to take a guess at it, but refer to your owner's manual, make sure everything your advanced is on correctly and your timings down, so, Thanks Bob, everyone 68 degrees and in Florida as well. So it's a timing issue, make sure that's intact. I wouldn't go anywhere near your fuel and intake area over there, but, "Just bought a new 2016 SGS, it has Vance and Hines exhaust. How can I tell if it has a tuner? It does have stock intake." Oh you're in a good climate to have, to mess around with your, your airflow too, and your fuel. "How can I tell if it as a tuner?" You definitely should have a 200 built-in on that. Take a look on the left side behind the seat in the bottom and see if there's a plug. It should be a gray receptacle over there with a orange or red cover into it. That would be your first indication that you don't, obviously, otherwise you can take a peak into, your owner's and even ask where you purchased it from but I would highly recommend getting one if you don't have one, for the only reason that upgrading your exhaust is not only gonna adjust everything in your bike, but also, if you get ever to doing your stock intake and getting rid of that thing and upgrading that, that tuner is critical to have at that point because not only are you allowing more air into your engine but you're pushing more out as well. So that combination, you need to be able to control that at some way. So, make sure, you're- if you don't have one, I would recommend getting one. And that kind of leads into the tuning element of this as well. Man, you guys make me jealous. Tuning in on these, if we're going with the Evo stock carburetor set up, what we're going to typically do is pull that main adjuster all the way out and we're going to go do quarter turns all the way until we get a smooth idle. Obviously we're playing with our timing system as well but from a carborated standpoint, what we're going to do is just take that all the way through until it sounds proper, make sure our throttle and idle lines have enough play in them where we're not cracking or pinching those wires up where it's going to give us a misreading and pull that through. Now, I have the tendency, I strive for perfection on these things and attention to detail. So anytime that we're kind of out of whack on tuning these bikes, we take an extra glance at even the jets and the needles on this to make sure, you know, we do a slight crack at that. That throttle it's responsive as can be. So, a lot of people may say, "Ah, just let it go." I think we tend to overdo it sometimes on the details, as he shakes his head back there And then tuning on a, twin cam side and with the application of having a tuner in there. If for instance, you have a Vance and Hines tuner and you can download, I'll get to you, I see you, Kevin. You're in Texas, man, you guys are in all warm areas. Jeez. So within that 200, download that app, you're going to go through there's going to be a ton of different settings where you can adjust the pressure. I mean all depending on your altitude. and even going into your fuel, your sensors, advancing your injectors to obviously you know, prematurely, put gas in there. Pick a stock setting and go from there. I would highly recommend looking into, you know instructions on how to get that part in for you, but, sorry you guys have had a lot of questions this time, this is good stuff. Make sure you take your time, you know what you're doing, because any little miss-click on that will trip your ECM, electronic control module or ECU, electronic control unit, and put things out of wack. So even time to time, I still referenced, you know instructions and guides just because how far technology has come nowadays with tuning and being able to get such a fine, fine precision tune in there. So make sure you're just kind of avoiding that, but, tuning it altogether with a tuner, super simple. Screaming Eagles, I see your question down there pal, "On a 2014 with the stage one Screaming Eagles are are nice too." Vance and Hines. I keep mentioning those are top of the line but, you know, be careful with those. Those are definitely a necessity. "What oil do you apply to air filter? I thought idea was to keep oil out of air filter." It is lightly applied on the outside so we're not actually putting oil into it, it's lightly applied on the outside. And for these KNNs, it's a KNN oil filter and it's actually notched out right on the bottle. What you do is you just flip it up and you'd just run stream-by-stream down. Now, when I say putting oil on the air filter, I don't mean directly into it, it's just simply going to the outside, it's not going to seep through. Oil, I guess is a generic word for it, but all it's doing is helping keep some of the outside elements out of that air filter or even attaching a directly here so they don't go further into our air filter. It also makes cleaning it a lot easier. We just spray it directly out, wipe it down and you will see nothing from the inside on this, once the oil is applied. So, obviously you don't want to use excessive amounts of it, but just simply lay down bead by bead, so, To clarify that, yeah, you are keeping oil out of there but you are, at the end of the day getting it in there as well, so, It's okay, it's okay to have that in there too. Kevin down the Texas, "Just jumped in, caught the last question about backfire deceleration lean condition because of aftermarket pipes without fuel adjustment also pops under deceleration." Yeah, Yeah, for sure. You gotta go through on carborated systems, you definitely have to go through and readjust everything as well and fuel adjustments on that but making sure you're getting enough fuel too. I think everyone's kind of strayed away from the carborated units and gone through to now the electronics, so, All right guys, we got some good stuff today. I covered some of the other questions that we had from you guys. Let's see. "After installing intake, do I need to do anything else?" That was another one. It depends, if you've got a carborated unit, obviously you're gonna go through and make your adjustments and tune it up. If you have, for a twin cam application, you're going to go through and hopefully have a tuner do that as well. Otherwise your ECM is going to read and make adjustments internally on that. Don't do anything if you don't have that tuner but it'll make those adjustments for you. So you don't need to do anything additional beyond that. Just make sure everything was securely in place and everything's torque down to spec. Torqued down to spec, proper fuel flow, proper airflow, you'll know over time, so, It's fun stuff, this is pretty much, I think all of us could agree that exhaust, intakes, those are the major upgrades that we see nowadays, so, Thanks Bob, it will warm up in like 10 minutes once this heater goes back on. So yeah, with the exhaust and in the intake, you know those are the major ones that we do. It's just, when installing them make sure you're referencing your owner's manual. Additionally, the manufacturer's instructions, going step-by-step. Like I had mentioned earlier, we had that instance where we were putting a backing plate on an M8, I continued to put the bolts in, as it said and specified in the instructions, it just didn't feel right, those threads were going in and it felt like something was going to snap. We pulled them out and found that issue. So not all the time, but some of the time you'll run into that but just make sure you're going step by step, the torquing, your sealant, if you're using blue Loctite, put a dab on don't overdo it because eventually you're going to have to pull that thing back off. It works well, so and then also if you're using sealants on your breathers, sometimes people do that. I wouldn't recommend it, but just put them in dry. Make sure that's on there as well and after you know, some miles riding make sure you're double checking. You can see my breath now. I'm glad this was a very helpful for you guys. And thanks for tuning in and bearing with me through Chicago chill that we have going on here. All you guys down in the sixties and seventies, enjoy that nice weather, not favorable here. Hopefully I got to all your questions guys today and you know, we'll be doing another live event next month, we've got a ton of videos up on the website, make sure you check those out, download that called "troubleshoot with Harley error codes." It's free, you can't lose anything, love that four-letter word. Yeah, we've got a ton of other stuff. So make sure you keep tuning in, make sure you check out those videos. You got any questions or anything else, submit them right online. We do our best to get back at you on those and if not, develop videos, make sure you got the answer to it. So thanks for tuning in everyone and stay warm. Thanks guys.